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I’ll Have a Collier for My Sweetheart

Harry Boardman sang I’ll Have a Collier for My Sweetheart on his and Dave Hillery’s 1971 Topic album Trans Pennine and in 1975 on his Topic album with the High Level Ranters, The Bonny Pit Laddie. The first album’s sleeve notes commented:

Wherever this song originated, it seems to have flourished almost exclusively in the Lancashire colliery areas. There is a set of words in Come All Ye Bold Miners (L&W 1952—edited by A.L. Lloyd), which was supplied by William Oliver of Widnes and a fragmentary version was also communicated to A.L. Lloyd by a miner, originally from Platt Bridge near Wigan. The text here was learned by Harry Boardman from his mother, Mary, who, in fact, learned it from her mother. The reference to factory lads “get nowt but brass” obviously referred to cotton factory lads. The young lassies of Failsworth near Oldham, however, seem to have found it more amusing to substitute this with “Ferranti’s lads”. It may be worth noting that Harry’s father was a Ferranti lad—before he retired.

Mary and Nigel Hudleston print three verses of Collier Lads, “as sung by an unknown singer, boundary of West and South Yorks”, in 2001 in their book Songs of the Ridings.

Crucible sang Collier Lad on their 2008 Fellside CD Love & Money. They noted:

We met Maggie Moore and Sean Bloor in Suffolk where Maggie sang a Lancashire version of this traditional song. Jess [Arrowsmith]’s new tune seemed to fit very nicely with Cotswold morris tune Highland Mary.

Maddy Prior sang The Collier Lad in 2008 on her Park album Seven for Old England, and in 2014 as a digital download single with Hannah James and Giles Levin. She noted:

Folk Songs & Ballads of Lancashire was compiled by Harry and Lesley Boardman, and is a collection of broadsides (printed sheets sold on the streets for a penny) and dialect poems. Harry was a great character and a strong voice in the promotion of all things Lancashire. His mother seems to have known this piece and he adapted and expanded it, and it gives a very positive view of the pitman’s attractions.

Marilyn Tucker and Paul Wilson sang The Sailor’s Lass on their 2009 Wren Trust album of songs of sea and shore, On the Tide. They noted:

Versions of The Sailor’s Lass turn up all over England, comparing the advantages of various trades against others. This one is from the Baring-Gould collection, taken down from Devonport boot-loosener Mr. Bunsell in 1870 [VWML SBG/1/3/501] , in which sailors win hands down over soldiers.

Laura Smyth sang I’ll Have a Collier in 2014 on her and Ted Kemp’s EP, The Charcoal Black and the Bonny Grey. They noted:

I’ll Have a Collier is a song of defiance. A young girl refuses to part from her sweetheart, a collier lad, despite her mother’s condemnation and attempts at bribery.

These sentimental lyrics were sung by Harry Boardman on the record Trans Pennine where he states that it had also been sung by his mother. A.L. Lloyd noted the similarities between this song and another traditional song commonly known as Johnny Todd, particularly to the offer and rejection of a silver cradle. The original tune seemed rather too jovial for the subject matter, and so Laura wrote a new tune loosely based on a version of Johnny Todd as collected by Roy Palmer from Samuel Webber.

Lyrics

I’ll Have a Collier for My Sweetheart in Come All Ye Bold Miners

My mother says I must not have a collier,
For if I do he’ll surely break my heart.
But I don’t care what my mother tell me,
I’ll have a collier for my sweetheart.

My mother said I must not have a collier,
For if I do he’ll surely break my hear.
But I don’t care what my mother tell me,
I’ll have a collier for my sweetheart.

Collier lads get gold and silver,
Factory lads get nowt but brass.
Who’d be bothered with a naughty bobber,
When there’s plenty collier lads?

I don’t want your silks and satin,
Nor your guinea golden ring.
I don’t want a silver cradle
For to rock my baby in.

My mother said that I could be a lady
If from my collier lad I’d quickly part;
I’d sooner walk on the bottom of the ocean
Than I’d give up my collier sweetheart.

Collier Lads in Songs of the Ridings

My mother sent me for some water,
For some water for our tea.
My foot slipped and down I tumbled,
A collier lad came a-whistling a me.

My mother says If I wed a drunkard,
It’ll break her tender heart.
I don’t care what my mother tells me,
I’st have a collier for my sweet-heart.

Collier lads bring gold and silver,
Factory lads bring ’owt but brass.
Who’d be bothered with a two-loom waiver,
When there’s plenty collier lads?

Harry Boardman sings I’ll Have a Collier for My Sweetheart

Spoken: This is a song my mother used to sing, and in fact it tells of a mother who says to her daughter: “Whatever you do, lass, don’t marry a collier!” The daughter replies: “I’ll have a collier for my sweetheart.”

I went out to get some water,
Get some water for my tea.
And I caught my foot and down I stumbled,
A collier lad’s come kissing me.

My mother says I mustn’t have a collier,
It would surely break her heart.
I don’t care what my mother tells me,
I’ll have a collier for my sweetheart.

“If you leave your collier sweetheart
I’ll buy you a guinea gold ring.
You shall have a silver cradle
For to rock your baby in.”

“I don’t want your silks and satins,
I don’t want your guinea gold ring.
I don’t want your silver cradle
For to rock my baby in.”

Collier lads get gold and silver,
Ferranti’s lads get nowt but brass.
And who’d be married to a lad from Ferranti’s
When there are plenty of collier lads.

My mother said I could be a lady
If from my collier lad I’d part,
I’d sooner walk on the bottom of the ocean
Than I’d give up my collier sweetheart.

(Repeat first verse)

Maddy Prior sings The Collier Lad

I went out to get some water
Get some water for my tea
Caught my foot and down I stumbled
Collier lad come kissing me

My mother said I mustn’t have a collier
It would surely break her heart
But I don’t care what my mother tells me
I’ll have a collier for my sweetheart

If you leave your collier sweetheart
I’ll buy you a guinea gold ring
You shall have a silver cradle
For to rock your baby in

I don’t want your silk and satins
I don’t want your guinea gold ring
I don’t want a silver cradle
For to rock my baby in

Collier lads get gold and silver
Ferranti’s lads get nowt but brass
Who’d be married to a lad from Ferranti’s?
When there’s plenty of collier lads

My mother said I could be a lady
I f from my collier lad I’d part
I’d sooner walk on the bottom of the ocean
Than I’d give up my collier sweetheart.